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Wersja wypowiedzi farmera puszczona przez lewicowe media trwa 1 minute 29 sekund:


Wersja prawdziwa, czyli pełna wypowiedź Clivena Bundy'ego trwa 3 minuty 13 sekund:


Sami oceńcie, czy to jest rasistowskie. Ja sie zgadzam z kolesiem. Facet mówi praktycznie to samo co znienawidzony przez lewaków Daniel Patrick Moynihan.
 

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A po co oceniać? Przecież to czy Bundy jest rasistą nie ma nic do rzeczy. Choć fragment o niewolnictwie to faktycznie idiotyzm. Ciężko mieć sympatię do kolesia który uważa, że czarni zakuci w kajdany na plantacjach bawełny mieli lepiej niż teraz.
 
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Dokładnie, to nie powinno mieć żadnego wpływu na ocenę jego konflikt z federalnymi, no ale niestety żyjemy w świecie, w którym takie rasistowskie gadki mają wpływ na wszystko, więc do czasu rozwiązania zatargu mógł się wstrzymać, bo tak to strzelił sobie w kolano, pozbawił się sojuszników.
 
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Ciężko mieć sympatię do kolesia który uważa, że czarni zakuci w kajdany na plantacjach bawełny mieli lepiej niż teraz.
Tylko że to nie jest sedno jego wypowiedzi. To jest to, co cytowały lewicowe media, bo oczywiście reszta nie wpasowała im się w ich wizje świata. HOAX EXPOSED: Full Clip Of Cliven Bundy’s Non-Racist, Pro-Black, Pro-Mexican, Anti-Government Remarks

Watch Bundy explain how we need to keep things from going backwards for blacks, and how the Federal government has created a neo-slave class via entitlement dependency that is so bad it is arguably worse than plantation slavery was. It is 100% clear that Cliven Bundy is not saying that blacks should be slaves picking cotton, but that the Federal government has created conditions for them so terrible, that their current situation may actually be worse. (If you are person of low intelligence, the fact that that is his point might be too hard for you to understand.) And he’s not blaming blacks for the issues of abortions, and crime and broken families, he’s blaming the Feds. This is the exact opposite of a racist, this is an advocate for the welfare and best interests of blacks. And just as importantly, you’ll at the end of the video he gives passionate praise and defense of hispanic illegal aliens, lauding them for “better family structures than most white peoples’” Racist?
 
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Bundy wyjaśnia CNN o co mu chodziło:


CNN postanowiło zapytać też czarnego ochotnika chroniącego Bundiego co o tym sądzi.


Cliven Bundy to szczery farmer, który mógłby lepiej dobierać słowa, ale rasistą raczej nie jest.
Teraz pewnie będzie się wypowiadał ostrożniej.
 
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Cliven Bundy to szczery farmer, który mógłby lepiej dobierać słowa
To koleś starej daty. Dawniej nie mówiło się "Afro-Amerykanie" tylko "Murzyni" (negros). Dzisiaj to uchodzi za obraźliwe i lewaki wykorzystują potem takie wypowiedzi, żeby przedstawić druga stronę jako rasistów i bigotów.

rasistą raczej nie jest
Rasistą jest każdy, kto nie rozumuje po lewacku. W tym sensie ja jestem rasistą, Ron Unz jest rasistą za ten artykuł* i ten farmer też.

* Local urban crime rates in America seem to be almost entirely explained by the local racial distribution.
 
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Niesamowity sojusz: rasista z KKK i czarnoskóry patriota broniący jego farmy przed rządem federalnym, Mózg rozjebany :)



Ale co się stało, już się nie odstanie. Dobry koment:

Weather Mr Bundy is a racist or not was never the point. He violated the golden rule of the media, don’t be white and talk about ANY issues facing black people.
 

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The Bundy family of Nevada joined with hard-core militiamen Saturday to take over the headquarters of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, vowing to occupy the remote federal outpost 50 miles southeast of Burns for years.

The occupation came shortly after an estimated 300 marchers — militia and local citizens both — paraded through Burns to protest the prosecution of two Harney County ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and Steven Hammond, who are to report to prison on Monday.

Among the occupiers is Ammon Bundy, son of Nevada rancher Cliven Bundy, and two of his brothers. Militia members at the refuge claimed they had as many as 100 supporters with them. The refuge, federal property managed by the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, was closed and unoccupied for the holiday weekend.

In phone interviews from inside the occupied building Saturday night, Ammon Bundy and his brother, Ryan Bundy, said they are not looking to hurt anyone. But they would not rule out violence if police tried to remove them, they said.

"The facility has been the tool to do all the tyranny that has been placed upon the Hammonds," Ammon Bundy said.

"We're planning on staying here for years, absolutely," he added. "This is not a decision we've made at the last minute."

Neither man would say how many people are in the building or whether they are armed. Ryan Bundy said there were no hostages, but the group is demanding that the Hammonds be released and the federal government relinquish control of the Malheur National Forest.

He said many would be willing to fight — and die, if necessary — to defend what they see as constitutionally protected rights for states, counties and individuals to manage local lands.

"The best possible outcome is that the ranchers that have been kicked out of the area, then they will come back and reclaim their land, and the wildlife refuge will be shut down forever and the federal government will relinquish such control," he said. "What we're doing is not rebellious. What we're doing is in accordance with the Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land."

Government sources told The Oregonian/OregonLive that the militia also was planning to occupy a closed wildland fire station near the town of Frenchglen. The U.S. Bureau of Land Management posts crews there during the fire season.

Law enforcement officials so far have not commented on the situation. Oregon State Police, the Harney County Sheriff's Office and the FBI were involved.

Ammon Bundy posted a video on his Facebook page calling on patriots from across the country to report to the refuge – with their weapons.

The dramatic turn came after other militia groups had tried to dampen community concerns they meant trouble.

Brandon Curtiss, a militia leader from Idaho, told The Oregonian/OregonLive he knew nothing about the occupation. He helped organize Saturday's protest and was at the Harney County Fairgrounds with dozens of other militia for a post-parade function. Another militia leader, BJ Soper, took to Facebook to denounce the occupation.

The occupation is being led by hard-core militia who adopted the Hammond cause as their own.

Ammon Bundy met with Dwight Hammond and his wife in November, seeking a way to keep the elderly rancher from having to surrender for prison. The Hammonds professed through their attorneys that they had no interest in ignoring the order to report for prison.

Ammon Bundy said the goal is to turn over federal land to local ranchers, loggers and miners. He said he met with 10 or so residents in Burns on Friday to try to recruit them, but they declined.

"We went to the local communities and presented it many times and to many different people," he said. "They were not strong enough to make the stand. So many individuals across the United States and in Oregon are making this stand. We hope they will grab onto this and realize that it's been happening."

Among those joining Bundy in the occupation are Ryan Payne, U.S. Army veteran, and Blaine Cooper. Payne has claimed to have helped organize militia snipers to target federal agents in a standoff last year in Nevada. He told one news organization the federal agents would have been killed had they made the wrong move.

He has been a steady presence in Burns in recent weeks, questioning people who were critical of the militia's presence. He typically had a holstered sidearm as he moved around the community.

At a community meeting in Burns Friday, Payne disavowed any ill intent.

"The agenda is to uphold the Constitution. That's all," he said.

Cooper, another militia leader, said at that meeting he participated in the Bundy standoff in Nevada.

"I went there to defend Cliven with my life," Cooper said.​

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Jest pierwszy zabity przez federalnych.

Burns, OR – The nearly month-long armed occupation of a federal wildlife refuge building in Oregon took a deadly turn Tuesday night as federal and state law enforcement ambushed vehicles en route to a meeting with area residents.

Finicum was shot at least six times, three times after he fell, she said, in an account posted on Youtube and shared by the Bundy Ranch Facebook page.


http://thefreethoughtproject.com/oregon-occupiers-ambushed-highway-lavoy-finicum-killed-cold-blood-hands-up/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=Traffic+Driver&utm_campaign=Facebook+Stout
 
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Był uzbrojony czy po prostu go odjebali jak to mają czasami w zwyczaju - bez powodu?
 

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Sharp claims that the vehicle was riddled with bullets and estimated Finicum’s vehicle was hit with over 120 rounds. She makes the point clearly and concisely that he was unarmed and had his hands in the air when he was killed in the ambush-style attack.
Milicje dostały rozkaz 'Stand by' aż sprawa się wyjaśni.
 
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Tymczasem skrajnie lewacki TYT już wysnuł słuszne wnioski: biali prawicowi Amerykanie największym zagrożeniem dla USA i historycznie największa zaraza na kontynencie. Nawet dostało się Kolumbowi, że gwałcił Indian.

 

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Tymczasem skrajnie lewacki TYT już wysnuł słuszne wnioski: biali prawicowi Amerykanie największym zagrożeniem dla USA i historycznie największa zaraza na kontynencie. Nawet dostało się Kolumbowi, że gwałcił Indian.

2:14:
Christopher Columbus came in, raped all the natives...

Podbój z rozmachem!
 
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Po zapoznaniu się z backgroundem wydarzenia dochodzę do wniosku, że koleś zginął tak jak pragnął:

"This was a dude who, repeatedly and on camera, said he wasn’t going to be taken to jail and would use force to prevent that. This guy wrote a novel about ranchers hanging local elected officials and getting into shooting wars with law enforcement and cowboys fighting the “jackbooted thugs”. He tried to run a law enforcement blockade and nearly hit someone in the process. He then got out, put his hands up, then put them into his pants."

Był ojcem jedenaściorga dzieci!
 

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No, nie dość, iż to prawak, białas, redneck, gun-nuts, ciemiężca Indian, chętny zniszczyć naturę, religijny pojebus, zapewne rasista, to w dodatku dzieciorób. Spełnienie snów lewactwa :).
 
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